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Boogz · Mar 22, 2008, 11:39 PM // 23:39

I can't find any other use for assassin heroes than A/R critical barrage, they don't use moebius builds correctly, also don't use critscythe builds well, are they just a waste of slot or there is some use for them?

- Tain - · Mar 22, 2008, 11:42 PM // 23:42

Melee AI isn't the most reliable in general, and sins are worse because they don't know how to use their skills. So no, there is no reason to bring a sin hero.

joshuarodger · Mar 22, 2008, 11:44 PM // 23:44

nope
12chars.

Luminarus · Mar 22, 2008, 11:45 PM // 23:45

They good for providing storage spots in their weapon slots

Shayne Hawke · Mar 22, 2008, 11:54 PM // 23:54

I've seen a few people in the past make builds for them that revolved a lot around hexes. I don't have any of those builds, and I don't know if any would be viable anymore.

llsektorll · Mar 22, 2008, 11:57 PM // 23:57

Yes....... Meat-shields!

Scary Raebbit · Mar 22, 2008, 11:59 PM // 23:59

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Originally Posted by llsektorll

Yes....... Meat-shields!

Warriors do it better.

FlamingMetroid · Mar 23, 2008, 12:06 AM // 00:06

they have assassin heroes?!

Marverick · Mar 23, 2008, 12:06 AM // 00:06

Assassin heroes have great synergy with MM bombers.

Miska Bow · Mar 23, 2008, 12:19 AM // 00:19

They provide you with 2 extra storage slot for a weapon and a off-hand.

Nyktos · Mar 23, 2008, 12:22 AM // 00:22

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Originally Posted by Miska Bow

They provide you with 2 extra storage slot for a weapon and a off-hand.

And more importantly: five runes and five insignias. Yes, it costs a salvage use to get them off, but that's worth the saved storage space, I think.

Ontopic: Crit Barrage is probably the best you're going to get. Luckily, there aren't any story missions that require Anton or Zenmai, so I'd probably just not use them.

fearfactory · Mar 23, 2008, 12:31 AM // 00:31

hero FFF.. that's about it.

Antithesis · Mar 23, 2008, 12:33 AM // 00:33

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Originally Posted by Boogz

I can't find any other use for assassin heroes than A/R critical barrage, they don't use moebius builds correctly, also don't use critscythe builds well, are they just a waste of slot or there is some use for them?

Testing how quickly you can drain a Hero Monk's energy.
Providing a MM with a headstart.

Marverick · Mar 23, 2008, 12:52 AM // 00:52

Moebius/DB is probably the best build for them. Keep attack skills simple, I like to just use three: Golden Phoenix Strike, Death Blossom, and Moebius Strike. Any more and heroes get confused and do stupid stuff like Moebius Strike > Critical Strike > Death Blossom. Zenmai does around 50 DPS with that; not optimal, yea, but a lot better than critical barrage and other garbage.

Boogz · Mar 23, 2008, 01:20 AM // 01:20

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Originally Posted by Shayne Hawke

I've seen a few people in the past make builds for them that revolved a lot around hexes. I don't have any of those builds, and I don't know if any would be viable anymore.

[card]Siphon Strength[/card]
wich is not worth of using on pve

yeah, i'll use my zenmai and anton as storages

Fangclaw · Mar 23, 2008, 02:03 AM // 02:03

Good distraction and MM fuel...

FoxBat · Mar 23, 2008, 02:12 AM // 02:12

I like the Golden Fox -> Golden Fang -> Blossom -> Moebius, similar deal. Add critical eye, some other random enchantment, and a run buff (maybe rush). Then add things like orders, barbs, strength of honor, etc. Cuts through destroyers like butter with the title on, since she's spamming skills constantly and has mostly armor-ignoring damage.

Always be careful with anything remotely conditional. They seem hesitant to use wild strike on someone not in a stance, for example. You can throw these skills on as extras, but they shouldn't be part of the primary combo.

Edit: also, may want to look into scythe assassins. 80% crit is nice damage. Just load them up with 3/4th attack skills.

Mr. Undisclosed · Mar 23, 2008, 02:14 AM // 02:14

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Originally Posted by Boogz

I can't find any other use for assassin heroes than A/R critical barrage, they don't use moebius builds correctly, also don't use critscythe builds well, are they just a waste of slot or there is some use for them?

They look cool?

Antithesis · Mar 23, 2008, 03:27 AM // 03:27

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Originally Posted by Sergeant Miyagi

They look cool?

True...Primeval on Zenmai and Deldrimor on Anton look the bomb. Might as well leave a good-looking corpse

Draginvry · Mar 23, 2008, 07:52 AM // 07:52

I use Zenmai as a smiting assacaster for undead areas.

But really, that's only because I have my monks geared solely for healing and protection, and all of my other casters are doing usefull things (MM or nukes).

Zenmai just gets the dirty jobs that aren't important enough for my other heros. But she is an assassin, so she should understand.